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On September 19, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and members of the Reserve Officers Association, including Brig. Gen. Robert D. Upp, Col. John T. Carlton, Rear Adm. B. Hayden Crawford, Col. Eugene H. Boyles, Col. James C. Craig, William F. Rhatican, and Melvin Stephens, Stephen B. Bull, and the White House photographer, met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:16 pm and 12:25 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 783-015 of the White House Tapes.